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But many of them are actually quite interesting and encourage you to improve by doing them imo. I think this is my 2nd favourite in the series as it stands, once patched,

it might even be my favourite.

The thing is that even if you clear all contracts you still need to grind afterwards to progress the story. I think the issue here is the same as what was being discussed

in Ulven's Rage 2 thread... It is mandatory grinding to progress the story. It would have been much better if the grind was optional, so that fans like you could still

opt in, but everyone else could just enjoy the game for what it is, same as all previous Trials games. Glad you enjoyed it though! we have a 2-star difference

Honestly, Slayer, I'm not just saying it because I'm biased but there was NEVER any point I NEEDED to grind. I always had contracts left over as I progressed through the

game so I'm not sure what I did differently as I went through it, I did tend to complete the majority of them as I went through the game, so maybe that was it?

But then that debunks what you just said about needing to grind afterwards so...the only other difference was I went for Platinum Medals a lot of the time but I didn't

finish the track every attempt, which would be how you'd get extra EXP in the main and the EXP you get for different medals is quite small.

I mean, I did replay tracks a lot for different sponsors but I was more than happy to do so. Tracks (AKA Stadiums) unlocked for me as I went through and the last 3 finals

unlocked at once. I was like Level 100 or so at the time IIRC but it was all so natural to me. Seriously, it's like we played different games.

unlocked at once. I was like Level 100 or so at the time IIRC but it was all so natural to me. Seriously, it's like we played different games.

Nevertheless, I do agree that it could have been implemented better based on our follow-up discussion and anything that will turn off a majority of players is an issue.

Nice plat there, well done

wow congrats atsuma!

Cheers all! It takes a lot of practice to get this one, I have played every Trials game since HD but if this is your first, it will take a lot longer, I think.

congrats

Nice completion I like trails but the idea of having the skill to plat one is way beyond me

WOOOOOOOOO. Congrats, Now you gotta blitz the rest of your 10k

Yup, the numbers are getting high now lol. Can't wait to inflate it even more today.

BOOM!

Nice work

why, thank you!

She's more than sweet, she's an Absolute Legend!

As are you, monsieur!

youre a legend atsuma [blush]

Looked a bit underwhelming, heard there's lots of filler too.

filler because you need to do mandatory grind to progress the story which is one of the worst design flaws in the history of gaming

I don't remember anything like that? Rage 1 had a lot of pointless shit you had to do to progress the story, on the other hand. Several times too.

look under inventory or intels or whatever the tab is called. you can see what you need to do to progress the story

i didnt notice it at first either because i had already done the requirements

Mad Max was a nightmare for demanding scrap be collected to upgrade your car so you could move onto the next area/story section

Agreed mandatory grinding to progress the story is one of the worst design decisions ever! Especially bad when it goes hand in hand with padding

The annoying thing is that the masses are actually signalling to the gaming industry that they want more padding, which IMO is a really stupid thing to signal for more of

I actually enjoyed the first Rage, but not too bothered about playing this one

What kind of total nutjobs would WANT padding... I don't understand this world lol.

Unfortunately Harris it is the majority of gamers . At least if it was a fringe group of nutjobs they wouldn't have the influence over the industry that they do

Fundamentally, I agree with the above but based on mine and Slayer's conflicting thoughts on Trials, I'm not sure I'm qualified to speak here.

Though one thing I will say...is I haven't personally heard of people wanting more padding. Doesn't mean they don't, I just haven't seen it clearly.

Oh, you have absolutely heard of people signalling for more padding... they just don't call it that

For example, people will say "This game is too short", "I paid £50 for this game and it only took me 6 hours to complete", "I want value for money when I buy my games. If

I am going to be paying full price, I want it to be worth it and have plenty of content", "Wow, this game is only single player, I would consider it if they added MP"

All sorta statements like this signal to game developers that they need to add filler and padding to their games. The reality is that they have a game idea all planned

out, but once it gets play tested, if it only takes a few hours, they will use various tricks to 'increase the game length'. This could be reducing character movement

speed, increasing the hallways, map size by keeping the key points designed, but moving them further apart. Gating story content behind side content, creating

backtracking for the sake of it. take away the option to use vehicles in certain areas. forced levelling, increasing health bars or copy/pasting side quests, increasing

the number of materials they had initially for the quest etc.

Basically, people should really consider what dev's hear when they complain about a game being too short. That doesn't mean they will make longer games... it means they

will make the game they already have... longer . Now, ofc they try to mask it in various ways, but the result is the same. I wish the majority of people would

start praising tight game design that it a great experience and that doesn't outstay its welcome... because then that is what we would get

Lastly, ofc some games are naturally long. That is obv fine. This specifically applies to games that don't need to be long