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A Patent Filing Published in Japan Details What Could be the PS5 Controller

  • CanezzaCanezza74,208
  • Posted on 18 November 19 at 16:11
    Was hoping we'd get rid of the touchpad next gen.
  • Posted on 18 November 19 at 18:51
    Frankie_Drums_ said:
    Was hoping we'd get rid of the touchpad next gen.
    Why? I feel like it's such a great addition which opens up quite a few control options in some games. The only problem is how underused it is, because the developers are either too lazy or can't/don't want to make more control functionality on PS4 compared to X1.

    But I always enjoy when games use it for additional controls, even if it's just a couple swipe shortcuts for opening map directly or something like that.

    Also if PS5 is going to be backwards compatible with PS4 games, which I think was confirmed, it's just impossible to get rid of touchpad at this point, because it would make some games literally unplayable.
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  • Posted on 18 November 19 at 21:28, Edited on 18 November 19 at 21:29 by Frankie_Drums_
    Gaelic-_-Flame said:
    Frankie_Drums_ said:
    Was hoping we'd get rid of the touchpad next gen.
    Why? I feel like it's such a great addition which opens up quite a few control options in some games. The only problem is how underused it is, because the developers are either too lazy or can't/don't want to make more control functionality on PS4 compared to X1.

    But I always enjoy when games use it for additional controls, even if it's just a couple swipe shortcuts for opening map directly or something like that.
    Developers aren't lazy, and if the issue was due to not wanting to create platform-specific control functionality, you'd see first-party exclusives like Spider-Man or God of War using the touchpad--and they didn't.

    The problem is you don't have tactile response from a touchpad, which means you need to look at it to use it effectively--but since you don't want to take your eyes off the screen while you're playing, it becomes useless.
  • Posted on 18 November 19 at 22:59, Edited on 18 November 19 at 22:59 by Gaelic-_-Flame
    Frankie_Drums_ said:
    Developers aren't lazy, and if the issue was due to not wanting to create platform-specific control functionality, you'd see first-party exclusives like Spider-Man or God of War using the touchpad--and they didn't.
    Well, we have seen first party games using touchpad for various purposes. Killzone had one for your drone control, Infamous Second Son had some (although those were mostly flavoured interact mechanic, but there were some cool examples of touchpad capabilities, with double presses, swipe and hold, etc). Gravity Rush 2 used swipes to switch your gravity mode. Let it Die had some inventory control with it (swipe to select item, press to use)

    Some non-first party games use it for additional shortcuts, like swipe to open your map instantly, instead of going through extra menu screen (Witcher 3 had this), or some games use it for extra control mappings, so you get 4 extra assignments (Warframe does this, and I'm sure a couple extra games as well). I've seen plenty of additional cool swipe uses, that just free up some controls (for example in Invisible inc you could swipe left and right to turn camera, and considering that by default you could fit only turning your camera to one side, due to lack of buttons, it was a very welcome addition). In Child of Light you could control your spirit thingy with touchpad, and with that you could control it much more responsively and quickly than with your stick. Some games just had it split into two sides, so you basically have two buttons instead of one (I think Diablo and some others did this). also not a game, but Share Factory (the video editing software on PS4) uses swipes to scroll the video very quickly

    So yeah, I do think that developers are mostly lazy, because I've seen quite a few examples of really good/helpful touchpad uses, that either give you extra control options or just simplify/speed up some interactions. Of course not every game can use touchpad and I understand that. Some games just don't have that many conrols in the first place, but there were plenty examples where I thought to myself "why the hell you can't do this with touchpad, instead of awkward controls". For example many games with radial selections of sorts could use touchpad for quick shortcut without even opening said radial menu, if you'd want to. Especially since most of those games on PC have plenty extra button shortcuts anyways, and we literally have a multipurpose pad that could be used for at least 4 extra shortcuts easily.

    The problem is you don't have tactile response from a touchpad, which means you need to look at it to use it effectively--but since you don't want to take your eyes off the screen while you're playing, it becomes useless.
    Um, not in a single game I've played that used touchpad one way or another, I had the need to look at it to use it. Sure you may or may not require some time to get used to swipes, memorize controls or whatever, but it's not really that different from pressing buttons really. You don't look at buttons to press them, and neither you have to find them with your fingers before you press them. Once you accumulate certain muscle memory, you just press the button that you want to press, or you swipe the command you want to swipe.
    Gaelic Flame - Hybrid created from Rathalos and Kushala Daora materials. Its cut is a death sentence
  • D72shadowD72shadow694,051
    Posted on 19 November 19 at 14:52
    Yeah I'm on the side of pro touchpad. It is often underused, but many games did use it well. I mean there were games that allowed it to be used as two different additional buttons depending in which side you pressed. You absolutely dont have to look at it either to use it. If you have played a lot of ps4 games, you should definitely see the usefulness of it.
  • SolaceCreedSolaceCreed702,163
    Posted on 20 November 19 at 17:09
    It's a big enough button that you don't have to look at the controller to use it. It's probably the easiest button to use.
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