I don't know why I clicked on this topic again I must have a head injury but here goes
BillyHorrible said:Nobody dares ask why the 3DS doesn't have a GameBoy Advance slot like the DS had.You can ask rhetorically (if you DARE
) but the answer is obvious. It's a
physical hardware slot. Why increase the price
and bulk of the system for something that's literally a decade old? That was two generations ago and there are literally millions of working devices that can play them, why do you need another. So many 3DS buyers already had a DS.
BillyHorrible said:... Nobody gives a shout when the Wii U, unlike the Wii, can't read GameCube discs,Again,
physical components. For a 10 year old console.
For starters there is no longer a set of GC controller slots nor Memory Card slots, but the bigger problem is the discs. My research tells me that the Wii U's disc drive is not physically able to read gamecube discs, feel free to find any kind of source that says that it can
https://www.reddit.com/r/wiiu/comments/2r7mdc/so_why_cant_th...BillyHorrible said:...or why SNES and other Virtual Console games bought on the Wii have to be re-bought on the Wii U. Yet everyone expects Sony to keep giving us the same games we bought once over a decade ago for free.First of all, lack of unified account system is one of Nintendo's biggest faults to this day, everybody knows that. But you only have to pay a small fee to "upgrade" (or more accurately re-license) and then you can use all new features on the new hardware. It's not a subscription it's an one time enhancement fee. Someone had to do the work to make it compatible and it's not unreasonable for Nintendo to pass on some of those costs. And I couldn't find european prices but the USA upgrade was only $1 NES/$1.50 SNES, that's tuppence.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/69488775Oh, and BY THE WAY, you can still play them on Wii U without paying a dime, so this whole section of your argument is moot. If sony charged $2 for trophy patches on PS2 games that would be equivalent, but since the PS2 games are not still playable by system transfer, it's not.
BillyHorrible said:Nintendo does it: Yay, they care for us that they make the SNES games available again! Let's give them too much money for it!$1.50 is "too much money"? Hyperbole?
BillyHorrible said:Soney does it: Boooh! Money-grabbing company! How dare they make PS2 games available on PS4 and not accept my disc version!See above, but tl;dr Wii U physically can't read Cube games, SNES cartridges are physically incompatible with disc slots, AND Wii U does play Wii VC games for free. In other words go back to the drawing board.
BillyHorrible said:I guess that just because Nintendo is aimed at kids (wasn't exactly true two decades ago but definitely true now) they can get away with more. Sony is almost exclusively an adult's console company and thus gets way more criticism for exactly the same moves.Double take, did you just literally belittle your opposition, or was it accidental? That's quite witty.
BillyHorrible said:Prem-aka-Prince said:Nintendo has rereleased a lot of classics. But they are not profiteering by releasing them at £40, they're releasing them at dirt cheap prices.... Nope. Super Star Wars, Jedi Starfighter and the likes would go for $10 on Nintendo's Virtual Console. Super Star Wars at least is $10 on PS4 and it seems that the other Star Wars games would get this price as well."Good for them"? "It's about time"? "That's more like it"?
Pick one
*** Spoiler - click to reveal ***p.s. bonus trivia roundBillyHorrible said:...They're just trying to make another buck on a franchise that has been dead for a while. Since Super Mario World in 1990, only three games in the main franchise worth noting have been released: ...Spoiler alert*** Spoiler - click to reveal ***97: Super Mario Galaxy
97: Super Mario Galaxy 2
94: Super Mario 64
94: Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3
93: Paper Mario
93: Mario Kart Super Circuit
93: Super Mario 3D World
92: Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2
92: Super Mario Sunshine
91: Mario Kart DS
91: Mario Golf
91: Mario Tennis
91: Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3
90: Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
90: Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
90: Super Mario 3D Land
90: Mario Kart 8 DLC Pack 2
89: New Super Mario Bros.
88: Mario Kart 8
88: Super Mario Maker
87: New Super Mario Bros. Wii
87: Mario Kart Double Dash!!
87: Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
87: Mario Kart 8 DLC Pack 1
86: Mario & Luigi Partners in Time
85: Super Mario 64 DS
85: Super Paper Mario
85: Mario Kart 7
84: Super Mario Advance
84: Mario Golf: Advance Tour
84: Classic NES Series: Super Mario Bros.
84: New Super Mario Bros. U
83: Mario Kart 64
82: Mario Kart Wii
82: Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again!
81: Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
81: Mario vs. Donkey Kong
81: Mario Tennis: Power Tour
81: Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
80: Mario Power Tennis
79: Mario Strikers Charged
79: Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem
79: Mario Party
78: New Super Mario Bros. 2
78: Mario Golf: World Tour
78: Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move
76: Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis
76: Dr. Mario Express
76: Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
76: Mario Superstar Baseball
76: Super Mario Strikers
75: Paper Mario: Sticker Star
etc.
...over 25 years only two of them score less than 87, so unless you think 84 is bad I'm gonna let the professional critics speak for themselves on this one
Harris59 said:Whoops, it happened, I predicted it, say anything bad about Nintendo and you'll get bashed for it.
...Nintendo aren't perfect, get over it.Show me one part where I claimed or demonstrated that nintendo are perfect and I will literally jump from the roof of your house and die.
Harris59 said:They did do backwards compatibility, but so did Sony in the same time period, so I don't see why their past is even relevant, Sony and Nintendo pretty much killed backwards compatibility at the same time...What. WHAT. Oh my God. Oh my God I'm going to haemorrhage.
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Breathe. Breathe.
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Prove me wrong: Sony ended integrated BC with the launch of the 2007 wave of PS3s.
Nintendo ended integrated BC with the oh that's right no they still do it.
...Don't even try to prove me wrong on that obvious fact I will literally take a webcam and record both Wii U and 3DS playing last gen physical games.
Harris59 said:However, I will say this, I saw a video where a guy modded his PS4 system software and was able to run PS1/PS2 discs, so the hardware is physically able to while Nintendo doesn't have a physical SNES slot, that's the only comparison I'll give in favor of Nintendo, at least they're less able to add the function, what is Sony's excuse?After all that huffing and puffing and patting each other down is there finally some sliver of logic in this thread...? You mean SNES cartridges physically can't work on Wii U, while PS1 and PS2 discs can work on PS4? Isn't that right where we started?
...nah, can't be. Crazy talk.
BillyHorrible said:Harris59 said:...while Nintendo doesn't have a physical SNES slot, that's the only comparison I'll give in favor of Nintendo, at least they're less able to add the function, what is Sony's excuse?Well, Wii U should be able to handle GameCube discs, though I'm prepared to give you the older consoles.BillyHorrible said:... Nope.