Posted on 02 October 15 at 00:03Prem-aka-Prince said:Barsoomian said:The point being, even the IGF cannot definitively say what an indie game is. ... you can't just look at the game, or at its budget, or at its sources of funding, or all three of those combined, for everyone to agree that it's "indie".Interesting debate, but I'm not sure it's going anywhere. I pretty much agreed from the start that it's hard to definitively place things as definitely indie or definitely not indie, hence almost everything this month exists in the vague space in between, hence all the adjectives. The only one I said is "legit indie" in my own words is the one where I could find no evidence of outside influence. It's probably no surprise that this was originally a mobile game, which then becomes the self-funding source for their more expensive console ports, as opposed to SMB's profitless flash game.I was just commenting for the record here that there is no clear definition of "indie". I'm not saying you or anyone else shouldn't label this or that game as indie if you feel it fits, nor am I suggesting in any way that the labels you assigned these games are wrong. I'm just saying people should be aware that the term "indie" doesn't automatically fit because of reason X (lack of publisher backing, or low budget, etc.), because not everyone was/is aware of that, and "indies" have been a big part of this whole discussion.Sort of related, and I saw a glimpse of it in this thread, it's sad to see how the term "indie" has been subverted by some people to mean something bad. It's like some people automatically assume a game is trash just because they think it's "indie", or because it's not sold in disc form, or whatever. I don't care if they want to be so ignorant that they miss out on some gems while gobbling down the latest CoD 27 or whatever, but it's sad that their voice on the internet could sway others into not supporting and missing out on good games.